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you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, orin hatch, not right win enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader of them all is this guy who is leaving the senate. how do you see it? >> i think this is the place where the conservative movement and the republican party often times part ways, and jim demint has been the burr in the bonnet of mitch mcconnell who people on the left think of as this hard right intransigent guy because he said his top priority was making barack obama a one-term president, but really mitch mcconnell in a lot of ways is like john boehner. an old-time dealmaker. people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with th
you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, orin hatch, not right win enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader...
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on one side, you have establishment, john boehner and mitch mcconnell. to them, the election was lost because the conservative ideologues pulled him so right he could never find his way back in november. on the other side, jim demint, rick santorum and the industrial complex that make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose, the problem our guy wasn't ideological enough. the problem is going out in technicolor with demint bolting out to become the ceo of the conservative movement. joining me is the former head of the rnc and joy reed, managing editor of rio.com, also one of us. this is what happens when you go near the misery index, the rush limbaugh show. yesterday, jim demint, still the united states senator from south carolina and the out-going heritage foundation president dent and rush made fun of the speaker. let's listen. >> well, i think it's safe to say boehner is not forcing either of you guys out, right? >> that's pretty true. it might work a little bit the other way, rush. >> what do you make of that? it might work a little bi
on one side, you have establishment, john boehner and mitch mcconnell. to them, the election was lost because the conservative ideologues pulled him so right he could never find his way back in november. on the other side, jim demint, rick santorum and the industrial complex that make the same argument ideologues always make when they lose, the problem our guy wasn't ideological enough. the problem is going out in technicolor with demint bolting out to become the ceo of the conservative...
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you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader of them all is this guy who is leaving the senate. how do you see it? >> i think this is the place where the conservative movement and the republican party often times part ways, and jim demint has been the burr in the bonnet of mitch mcconnell who people on the left think of as this hard right intransigent guy because he said his top priority was making barack obama a one-term president, but really mitch mcconnell in a lot of ways is like john boehner. an old-time deal maker. people like jim demint can't stand people like that. they feel the party has become to easy to capitulate. remember with the budget control act when democra
you have demint out there running a candidate against mitch mcconnell to his right, almost beating him last time around, trying to move the party to the right. selecting candidates like sharron angle and some of the whackier ones like christine o'donnell. all around the country always trying to get several notches to the right of what we have. bob bennett, not right wing enough, john mccain not right wing -- their idea of right wing is way out, and the leader of them all is this guy who is...
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senators like orrin hatch, chuck grassley, mitch mcconnell, richard shelby, thad cochran. senator dole went to the floor today needing just five, yes votes from old friends. here's how bob dole's old friends voted. >> mr. cochran. mr. cochran. no. mr. shelby. mr. shelby, no. mr. grassley. mr. grassley, no. senators voting in the negative. mcconnell, mr. hatch, mr. hatch, no. >> bob dole needed five votes today. those five votes were all he needed. bob dole received into their hearts today. and found nothing. after the vote, john kerry said, it was one of the saddest days i've seen in almost 28 years in the senate. we know that when bob dole leaves us, which i hope doesn't happen for a very, very long time, those five men, if they're still with us, will rise on the they will know and we will know on the day when they could have honored bob dole. honored his vision as a legislator. honor his friendship and his personal kindnesses to him over many, many years. they failed bob dole. with one word, no. they failed their old friend. they dishonored themselves and they dishonored
senators like orrin hatch, chuck grassley, mitch mcconnell, richard shelby, thad cochran. senator dole went to the floor today needing just five, yes votes from old friends. here's how bob dole's old friends voted. >> mr. cochran. mr. cochran. no. mr. shelby. mr. shelby, no. mr. grassley. mr. grassley, no. senators voting in the negative. mcconnell, mr. hatch, mr. hatch, no. >> bob dole needed five votes today. those five votes were all he needed. bob dole received into their hearts...
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how serious is she against running against mitch mcconnell? >> i think she's serious about getting involved in government and playing a different kind of role in public affairs. she's always been a very outspoken activist and very knowledgeable public policy person. so she's considered a run. we know that. we don't know -- it might be against mcconnell. it might be against rand paul in 2016. it could be for governor of tennessee, but it sounds to me like she's certainly interested in playing a different role. >> and -- >> one that would seek office. >> and she's certainly got mcconnell's attention. consider this statement from ses is he benton, his campaign manager. i'm quoting. it's going to sting. we're doing to make sure that you don't come out with your nose clean. we're going to drive your negatives up and very aggressively and publicly litigate your record before the citizens of kentucky. benton, who ran ron paul's presidential campaign, says this was not directed specifically at ashley judd. is there benton preparing for a political cam
how serious is she against running against mitch mcconnell? >> i think she's serious about getting involved in government and playing a different kind of role in public affairs. she's always been a very outspoken activist and very knowledgeable public policy person. so she's considered a run. we know that. we don't know -- it might be against mcconnell. it might be against rand paul in 2016. it could be for governor of tennessee, but it sounds to me like she's certainly interested in...
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i want to play a clip of mitch mcconnell talking about that. let's play it now. >> by demanding the power to raise the debt limit when ever he wants by as much as he wants, he showed what he's after is assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars without anyone -- i assure you it's not going to happen. >> the back story is republicans have no leverage in the fiscal curve talks. if nothing happens, they don't get anything they are looking for january 1st. but, they see a chance to get leverage here a month later when we hit the debt ceiling. they are talking about if we don't get the concessions right now in these negotiations, we are going to hold it over your head. i'm looking at this. in the way out, the constitutional scholars offered, they say there is -- congress can't default like this. we are going to keep on like nothing happened. the white house explicitly ruled that out. it would unsettle the markets. short of that, the republicans have leverage again, don't they? >> sadly, it seems to me they do. i was happy to hear the pre
i want to play a clip of mitch mcconnell talking about that. let's play it now. >> by demanding the power to raise the debt limit when ever he wants by as much as he wants, he showed what he's after is assuming unprecedented power to spend taxpayer dollars without anyone -- i assure you it's not going to happen. >> the back story is republicans have no leverage in the fiscal curve talks. if nothing happens, they don't get anything they are looking for january 1st. but, they see a...
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yesterday an embarrassing stunt by the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell on the floor of the senate. at boehner's request senate leaders and representative nancy pelosi have been excluded from talks leaving it to boehner and obama to make a deal. though boehner spokesman michael steele tells us this morning if we're going to solve this problem every congressional leader and more importantly the white house have all important roles to play. the fact is we've heard this same thing. and that is that pelosi and the senate leaders are not in the room at first. they'll be brought in when boehner and the white house are close. mann while, back to the debt ceiling. the new republicans' main point of leverage n. a rare misstep, mcconnell may have taken some of that leverage away in a move that ended with mcconnell filibustering himself. the president doesn't have enough democratic support, mcconnell moved to vote to permanently give the president the rate to approve the debt ceiling. reid shocked mcconnell by calling the idea of having that vote a positive development. forcing him to reject
yesterday an embarrassing stunt by the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell on the floor of the senate. at boehner's request senate leaders and representative nancy pelosi have been excluded from talks leaving it to boehner and obama to make a deal. though boehner spokesman michael steele tells us this morning if we're going to solve this problem every congressional leader and more importantly the white house have all important roles to play. the fact is we've heard this same thing. and...
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic strategist donna gentile-o'donnell will weigh in on that tonight. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." president obama has put house speaker john boehner and republicans in a box on fiscal cliff negotiations. and the evidence is mounting. president obama stayed on offense today, visiting the santana family in northern virginia whose taxes will go up more than $4,000 in 2013 if middle class tax cuts aren't extended. >> i'm encouraged to see that there's been some discussion on the part of republicans acknowledging the need for additional revenue. as i've indicated, the only way to get the
. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic...
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mitch mcconnell sort of blew his own leverage. dick gephardt and the others you've spoken to say about the way the current leadership is handling this. >> they're optimistic. when i talk to the former house majority leader gephardt yesterday, he said i feel like there's a rhythm to these things and we're in a rhythm now where the principles, the president and speaker are talking and not leaking those calls. if you saw both the white house was very cagey about the call yesterday between the two men, speaker boehner wouldn't talk about the -- what the conversation was, and so there's some feelings and progress but what gephardt did say was this is really hard because people are going to lose their seats if they vote for this and that, when you that kind of self-preservation it's very difficult and the public needs to get on board and support any kind of deal, not their preferred deal, but any kind of deal to help the leaders get there. >> i want to ask all of you, ari and susan and chris, about the cabinet decisions. we're told the
mitch mcconnell sort of blew his own leverage. dick gephardt and the others you've spoken to say about the way the current leadership is handling this. >> they're optimistic. when i talk to the former house majority leader gephardt yesterday, he said i feel like there's a rhythm to these things and we're in a rhythm now where the principles, the president and speaker are talking and not leaking those calls. if you saw both the white house was very cagey about the call yesterday between...
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senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, you just saw him there talking on the floor, he actually found himself, well, in unusual territory thursday. he actually had to filibuster himself. >> no, no, he can't. >> yesterday, senator mcconnell brought a bill to the floor to give the president greater power to raise the debt limit without support. but harry reid called his bluff, agreeing to a straight up-or-down vote. that then forced the minority lead y leader to filibuster his own bill. >> what we have here is a case of republicans here in the senate once again not taking yes for an answer. this morning, republican leader asked consent to have a vote on this proposal, because now i told everyone that we're willing to have that vote, up-or-down vote. now the republican leader objects to his own idea, so i guess we have a filibuster his own bill, so i object. >> is there objection to the original request? >> yeah, object. >> objection is heard. got whiplash. >>> in a surprise announcement also coming out of the senate yesterday, tea party favorite and conservative icon senator jim demint,
senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, you just saw him there talking on the floor, he actually found himself, well, in unusual territory thursday. he actually had to filibuster himself. >> no, no, he can't. >> yesterday, senator mcconnell brought a bill to the floor to give the president greater power to raise the debt limit without support. but harry reid called his bluff, agreeing to a straight up-or-down vote. that then forced the minority lead y leader to filibuster his own...
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. the distances aren't getting shorter. ♪ the trucks are going farther. the new 2013 ram 1500. ♪ with the best-in-class fuel economy. engineered to move heaven and earth. ♪ guts. glory. ram. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal cliff plan to the people. will republicans buckle under public pressure? msnbc's political analyst michael eric dyson and democratic strategist donna genteel-o'donnell will weigh in on that tonight. >>> the ceo of apple makes a big announcement about the future of the company's produ
. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit...
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. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could include increased risk of prostate cancer; worsening prost
. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell made history in the senate today. he called for a vote on his debt limit bill. democrats called his bluff and then believe it or not, mcconnell filibustered his own bill. congressman chris van hollen joins me on all of the latest fiasco surrounding the fiscal cliff. stay with us. he's going to apply testosterone to his underarm. axiron, the only underarm treatment for low t, can restore testosterone levels back to normal in most men. axiron is not for...
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. >> surprising exactly no one, senator mitch mcconnell took to the senate floor yesterday to blast the administration strategy as a campaign maneuver. >> incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seem perfectly happy, perfectly happy, to go off the cliff. >> but in a new quinnipiac poll out today, the american public gives the democrats the benefit of the doubt by a margin of 18 points, americans trust the president and democrats to avoid the fiscal cliff over republicans. the same poll gave president obama his highest approval rating in three years, with 53% support. in the next hour and a half, president obama will continue the great reasonableness tour of 2012. visiting a middle class family in northern virginia with the aim of putting more pressure on congress to extend middle income tax cuts. majority leader harry reid did his part for the cause on the senate floor today. >> so it's apparent how this will end. the only question is, when will it end? it's how long will speaker boehner make middle class families wait for relief and how long will he force the financial
. >> surprising exactly no one, senator mitch mcconnell took to the senate floor yesterday to blast the administration strategy as a campaign maneuver. >> incredibly, many top democrats, including the president, seem perfectly happy, perfectly happy, to go off the cliff. >> but in a new quinnipiac poll out today, the american public gives the democrats the benefit of the doubt by a margin of 18 points, americans trust the president and democrats to avoid the fiscal cliff over...
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in his reaction mitch mcconnell said that demint helped galvanize the american people against a big government agenda. that's at least what senator mcconnell sees there. >> yeah, right. the fact is his record was not good, and look. what i'm concerned about actually is that does this mean that the heritage foundation becomes marginiz izizaled from main street movement? heritage is the source of a lot of conservative ideas, not all of which are crazy. it's interesting to see if it remains in the conservative mainly stream or if it goes off into a fringe. >> thank you, gentlemen. greatly appreciate it. let me bring in democratic congre congresswoman from ohio. she ranks third on the house budget committee. thank you for joining us. we hope we got you at the top of the hour. >> thank you, tamron. >> what are your thoughts on the notion there's a dpeel in sight. it's a question of whether you have the bush tax cuts separate and deal with the other issues of entitlement and the fiscal issues the president wants to address as far as the debt ceiling later? >> i'm very optimistic, tamron. i think the
in his reaction mitch mcconnell said that demint helped galvanize the american people against a big government agenda. that's at least what senator mcconnell sees there. >> yeah, right. the fact is his record was not good, and look. what i'm concerned about actually is that does this mean that the heritage foundation becomes marginiz izizaled from main street movement? heritage is the source of a lot of conservative ideas, not all of which are crazy. it's interesting to see if it remains...
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minority leader mitch mcconnell is aghast at such a ploy claiming he's breaking the rules to change the rules. of course in 2005 when mcconnell was considering the same thing over president bush's judicial nominees, it was minority leader reid's turn to be aghast. therein lies the real issue. the party in power wants the ability to exercise power. but the american people want action. at the table steven spalding, staff counsel for common cause, a group suing the nat to have the filibuster declared unconstitutional. tara wall, dorian warren and lawyer and nbc latino contributor, raul reyes. >> all right, steven, how could it be unconstitutional? >> the constitution does say each chamber can set its own rules. we think the senate should be able to do that with a majority belief. contemporary to popular belief, the 11th amendment was thou shalt need 60 votes to pass a bill. if you go back to the founding, the founders in the federalist papers said they considered a super majority requirement and rejected it. they said to have a super majority requirement could be used by a corrupt hunt a t
minority leader mitch mcconnell is aghast at such a ploy claiming he's breaking the rules to change the rules. of course in 2005 when mcconnell was considering the same thing over president bush's judicial nominees, it was minority leader reid's turn to be aghast. therein lies the real issue. the party in power wants the ability to exercise power. but the american people want action. at the table steven spalding, staff counsel for common cause, a group suing the nat to have the filibuster...
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for the worst week, it has to be senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i just -- going up there and filibustering against your own bill is never a good thing. >> yeah. >> he really kind of set the stage. >> kind of leaves you head scratching, like, what? okay. mike, how about you? best and worst. >> let's start with worst. for obvious reasons we'll pick dee jay shock jocks and prank calls. you don't want to come close to making light of that. that's just horrible. for best week, back to what we were talking act, jim demint. my gosh, he's one of the least flawed members. he's going to go to heritage foundation where his predecessor knocked down a million bucks last week. he'll be one of one instead of one of a hundred. >> let's give mike viqueira a big hand. he did a good job with our best. you near the big three. thank you very much. i think you're going to have to come see us again. that's a wrap. i'll see you here tomorrow at noon eastern. up next, craig melvin. [ male announcer ] take dayquil... [ ding! ] ...and spend time on the slopes. take alka-sel
for the worst week, it has to be senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. i just -- going up there and filibustering against your own bill is never a good thing. >> yeah. >> he really kind of set the stage. >> kind of leaves you head scratching, like, what? okay. mike, how about you? best and worst. >> let's start with worst. for obvious reasons we'll pick dee jay shock jocks and prank calls. you don't want to come close to making light of that. that's just horrible. for...